Why I Think We’ll Beat Barca In Rome!

By: Wayne Farry | May 6th, 2009

So there we have it. Aside from all the controversy of who should be in the Champions League Final, no one can deny that in Rome it’s going to be Barcelona facing Manchester United.

Barcelona scored a super-late equaliser in the ultra-controversial CL Semi-Final at Stamford Bridge. They played okay, but in all honesty should have had at least one penalty awarded against them.

So it’s us and them; the two best footballing sides in Europe, and in all truth, the world. The leaders of the Liga BBVA against the leaders of the Premier League. A meeting between many of the the best players in the world and also, a repeat of last year’s Semi-Final.

I’m happy with how the Semi-Final went to be honest, many people would prefer to play Chelsea rather than Barca but I wouldn’t. Barca are good, but I am supremely confident leading up to the Final.

And here’s why. First of all, Pep Guardiola’s Barca side are a sight to behold in La Liga. They rip apart defences, control midfields and their attacking trio is perhaps the most impressive in world football. Their three main strikers have scored more than ninety goals between them in all competitions this season and will score more. But in truth, La Liga is a far inferior league to the EPL. Now, many will disagree with me, I know that. La Liga has some good sides, i.e. Barca, Real, Sevilla, Villarreal and Atletico. But not one of La Liga’s sides has a defence to match that of Man United, Liverpool or Chelsea, that’s undeniable. Barca can rip through defences in La Liga but I’d wager quite a lot to say that they couldn’t do that to a lot of EPL teams.

Secondly, the EPL is a much more powerful and fast league than La Liga. Chelsea showed that both tonight and in last week’s game, as they hustled and harried Barca off the ball. Because of the physical demands of the EPL, players have to bigger, stronger and faster. La Liga games are played at a slower pace. Sure, it’s probably technically superior but you need to combine the two to succeed. You just need to look at the latter stage lineups of the Champions League in recent years to see that there have been more English teams than Spanish teams.

Finally, a lot of it comes to closing down. In La Liga players are given loads of time on the ball. Messi, Henry and co. can spread the ball about with ease and little fear of being dispossessed by the opposition. Even near the other team’s penalty box they’re given lots of room, and time. Mainly because of the fear they strike in other teams because of their skill, but also because teams are afraid of taking them down. And this is probably the main reason I’m not afraid of us facing Barca; we won’t give them any time on the ball. Without time on the ball, Barca are still good, but they’re like a rattlesnake without the venom. Against Chelsea at the Bridge they passed and passed around the pitch, but often became desperate in the final third and resorted to loose through balls that led to nothing. In the end they scored from Dani Alves’ only good cross of the game, which was headed toward Eto’o by a defender, then passed from Eto’o to Messi and from Messi to Iniesta, who scored with a stunning shot.

Whereas Chelsea scored one but couldn’t get the second, I think that if we score first at the Stadio Olimpico early on then we have a massive chance of nullifying the Barca threat and winning. Barca don’t seem to like chasing games against English teams. They like playing in the knowledge that they have time to score. Without that knowledge, and with a few players within a number of yards of each of their players they begin to panic. We saw that tonight, and had it not been for poor refereeing they would have paid for what was, ultimately a lack of fluency and creativity.

Honestly, if we score first I think we have it, regardless of who’s playing for Barca. We’re sure to score, I honestly think that. And if we press them as well as Chelsea did but show more potency than Chelsea tonight, we should all be very happy. Bring on 27 May!

So, I know we’ve just found out our CL Final opponents. But I felt the need to voice my feelings on the issue. Do the same in the commets below, it’ll be interesting to hear what you guys think.



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  • Marcus |  May 7th, 2009 at 4:13 am

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    i dont think its how many Roma Ultras turn up i think it maybe Italian Ultras show up due to the fact that saying they hate english teams is an understatment. I agree with u 100% wayne this has to have the best security ever….but Italian police arent very good at doing there job

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 7th, 2009 at 4:17 am

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    Yeah, you’re right. The Italian police have never been great at crowd control. It could be a case of bringing in outside police forces with no bias towards/against certain groups of fans, because if it’s Roman police, they’ll no doubt remember the crowd trouble from the Roma-United games years back.

    Personally, I think it was foolish to have awarded the CL Final to Rome at all. But that’s Platini for you.

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  • Taylor Rockwell |  May 7th, 2009 at 4:26 am

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    Seriously Wayne… how dare you express your personal views in an open forum? Seriously… but, as someone else already pointed out, no Marcos, no Abidal, and no Danny Alvez… Sure Barca have scored a lot of goals, but it’s not exactly like our attack is impotent, and with a makeshift defense in place, I don’t think Barca fans should be worrying about their attack.

    And as far as EPL v La Liga goes, when Sid Lowe tells me that the Spanish league is weaker than most would like to believe, I’ll take him at his word.

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  • Taylor Rockwell |  May 7th, 2009 at 4:29 am

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    What do you mean Wayne? It’s not like United have a violent history in Rome which the police did nothing to quash… plus, who doesn’t love an atmosphere where the fans are approximately 4 miles away from the pitch due to a running track. I know I do…

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 7th, 2009 at 4:31 am

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    Yeah, spot on Taylor. But I was mainly focussing on Barca’s attack because it’s what most people harp on about.

    And just like you, I’d take Sid lowe at his word.

    As someone who watches just as much Spanish football as he does English football, unlike what some peeps here have said, I think I’m in a position to say which I think is better.

    Anyway T, do you think we’ll win?

    Also man, try and be more obvious with your sarcasm, perhaps by writing “joking” beside things, it’s so hard to interpret written sarcasm..

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  • Colin |  May 7th, 2009 at 5:07 am

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    I have to admit, I was rooting for Barca as well. I think Barca’s style of play is very similar to Arsenal’s (only better of course) and I think Fergie will approach the game very similarly to how he did the second leg of the semi-final. I would even go as far as to say the line up may be identical with only Carlos coming in for Fletch. Sadly, I don’t see Berba cracking the starting XI for this game. While I am not a Berba hater, I just don’t think we need him to hold the ball up in this game.

    I think with Rooney, Ronaldo, Park and Tevez, we can pass and move our way through their defense. In other words beat them at their own game.

    With all that being said, Barca still scare me to death. Sure they may have “limped” into the final, but they are capable of a dazzling display at any moment. Our back four will certainly face a different challenge than they are used to. Rio and Vida will have to communicate very well. It may be a tough transition from hacking defenders down to have to track their supreme movements.

    Their win against Chelsea shows why we should be worried. Possession is the best defence. Sure they may be missing 3 of their starting back 4, but if they control the ball 70% of the time, it may not matter. And if they have the ball that much, they only need one shot on target to win.

    So, I’m confident, but not overly so. Should be a great match. Sorry for the novel.

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 7th, 2009 at 5:13 am

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    I can see what you mean about the possession. But what encourages me is that when Chelsea had possession last night, during the brief times that they did, they had lots of great chances. That’s why I believe that we’ll score a few.

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  • martin |  May 7th, 2009 at 5:43 am

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    Colin, I disagree with you about Berbatov. I am sure Fergie will try and take advantage of Barca’s lack of aerial ability, and a Rooney / Tevez partnership will not do that.

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 7th, 2009 at 5:48 am

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    I’m certain we’ll see Ronaldo playing as a centre-forward again. He was so lethal that it would be silly to move him. And I don’t think that Berba will start to be honest.

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  • swapnil |  May 7th, 2009 at 6:38 am

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    well the reason i think utd have an advantage is bcoz barca will miss both their first choice full backs..absence of alves and abidal is a bigger blow for barca than absence of fletcher for manu!!!i’m pretty sure SAF will play rooney on left and park on right who will surely have easier time!!!

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  • catalanbarçafan |  May 7th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

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    Summarizing the facts:
    - EPL is (currently and obviously) the best league, everybody knows that, so its obviously better than La Liga BBVA.
    - Barça has also destroyed teams outside La Liga, like Lyon and Bayern, champions of their respective competitions (also inferior to EPL of course :-P ).
    - EPL was a weaker competition just a few years ago. I remember that spanish and italian teams always wanted to play against english teams. Don’t forget, don’t underestimate the others, don’t be so arrogant.
    - ManU won last CL semis against Barça. But you know you weren’t so confident till the final whistle blowed.
    - Barça typical denfence is not weak, if you really have seen the last 20 Barça matches you should know that.
    - Barça circumstantial defence, without Abidal and Marquez, will not be as weak as you would hope. Puyol and Pique are among the best defenders in the world, and, with the help of the young Caceres and the experienced Silvinho, they can do the job (only) if Barça manages to control possession.
    - I will miss Alves. I think he’s the key of Barça resurrection after the Ronaldinho’s decadence.
    - You, ManU fans, are more confident because of the semis against Arsenal, and because Chelsea seemed to know how to stop Barça. You are better than Chelsea (in the table) so the transitive rule makes you think you’re better than Barça. Forget it, this rule does not apply in sports.

    Concluding:
    - THERE’S NOT A CLEAR FAVOURITE

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  • Wayne |  May 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm

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    catalanbarcafan, I’m not basing my confidence on us being better than Chelsea and Chelsea nearly beating you guys, that would be stupid. It’s just that from what I’ve seen, when you play tight to Barca and give them no time and space they find it difficult.

    I was genuinely disappointed by Barca against Chelsea, they lacked their usual flair.

    And really, Bayern and Lyon are not great examples to show how good your team are to be honest.

    Simply, I think that we’re better than you guys. I think we’re stronger, faster and simply better as a team.

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  • Hector |  May 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

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    Can’t say I’m not a little disappointed with this article, Wayne. You usually are level headed and objective. As a culé I think Man U SHOULD be favored, I think they have a better chance of winning, no doubt albeit not by as much as you make it seem. Should we just give you a bye and hand you the trophy like SAF joked? Its a final. Say what you will about Barca but they have not lost a game by more than a goal this season. It WILL be close whatever the result may be.

    OK. Tactically, it is absolutely undeniable that Barca’s style struggles against organized, disciplined, highly talented defenses especially when they involve parking a certain bus regardless of nationality (i.e. 9-10 men behind the ball). The difference is the talent level involved in those defenses. I’m sorry but you guys had a hell of a time cracking a bus parked by a team by the name of Villareal (actually you didn’t). Liverpool had a hard time cracking a bus parked by a team called Atletico Madrid with one of the worst defenses in La Liga. You guys got extremely lucky a while ago when Sunderland parked the bus at Old Trafford. Cracking a bus is ALWAYS hard. The fact that Chelsea was so scared to open up should tell you how overrated Hiddink thought our offense to be. Our disadvantage is an inflexibility in tactics to adapt to this (which in honesty is also due to the personnel we have….maybe this will be addressed this summer). We are the George S Patton of teams, “attack, attack, attack!!!”. That comes back to bite us in the ass often.

    Regarding the final. You WILL miss Fletcher and Hargreaves on this one. One of the main reasons for us having trouble against Chelsea is IMO that they have a combination of some of the most physical and best box-to-box midfielders in the world. Those guys are HUGE, they’re monsters, ALL of their midfield is. Lampard, Ballack, Essien, Obi Mikel, Anelka, Malouda, all are bigger than our midfield, more physical, and can defend when called upon. This is why I refer to Hargreaves. He is just the type of midfielder you need for this type of match.

    Your midfield is less physical than Chelsea’s without Hargreaves and Fletcher, better in attack and passing, yes but less physical when called upon to defend. Anderson WILL have to play and he fits the big physical mold but Scholesly, Park (despite his super human stamina), Giggs (who I admire the hell out of), Carrick, and co. are great players but you have to admit that in terms of overpowering physicality they fall short of the Essien, Ballack, Lampard trio. This may affect the game more than you think.

    Another key is Henry and how Guardiola adapts his tactics to whatever SAF does. 35+ years of coaching at the highest level vs less than 1 should be no contest in theory but don’t underestimate Guardiola learning from his mistakes. Right now, believe it or not we are playing the best way we can considering our current personnel. Guardiola’s first request during the summer was adding a more physical presence hence Keita and Busquets and a big target man who we never got. He knows the disadvantage we are at right now.

    To end the rambling, it feels damn good to be underdogs again. Guess we SHOULD just hand you the trophy :) .

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 7th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

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    This is what I didn’t want from this article. I didn’t want people to think that I think we’ll walk the Final.

    I’ve just said that if we win, which I think we will, then these will be the reasons why. Just as I’m sure there are lots of reasons Barca fans think they could win.

    It’s an opinion piece. For the purposes of the post I’ve decided to focus on Barca’s weaknesses, because that’s what we’ll be capitalizing on if we win.

    If I were to write one saying ‘Why I Think We’ll Lose Barca In Rome!’ it’d be just as long. Simply put, there are great, logical cases for both sides to be supremely confident. And as a United fan and blogger, I’m obviously going to focus on our reasons to be confident, not Barca’s.

    That’s my last word on it, hope I’ve resolved some things.

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  • Alexinho |  May 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

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    If Barca can win the Chelsea tie the way they did, well, anything can happen.

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm

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    I know I don’t have to apologise for what I believe, and I never plan to.

    But I think a lot of people mistake opinion and belief for arrogance and I simply had to clear that up..

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  • Isaiah |  May 7th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

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    What’s wrong with arrogance? I’m not going to be anything but arrogant when I praise Barcelona in my preview of the game. Because I think that while ManU is a good team, they’re no Barça. And that’s fine.

    I’m happy with this opinion piece because it’s an opinion piece. Try to be fair when you write them, sure, but you can come at it and say “Look, Sherlock Holmes is the greatest soccer player on earth,” and, really, it’s an opinion. Subjective topic, subjective tone. All good.

    But you’re wrong, of course, Wayne. :D

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  • Jason |  May 7th, 2009 at 8:46 pm

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    Hey guys. Congrats on making it to the final.

    You are completely in your rights to be confident in your team.

    but a few statements were a little off:

    1. “La liga is a far inferior league to the EPL”
    not only do i not think that La Liga is FAR inferior, i dont think that that the EPL is better than La Liga at all. I think it is a mistake to judge leagues based on the top teams. Yes, Man U are at about Barca’s level. And yes, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal are better than Real, Atletico, and Villareal. But that doesnt mean that the EPL is better than La Liga. Taking Each top’s four out of the picture, if La Liga’s and the EPL’s 5th and 6th teams played eachother, im sure La Liga’s would win (Aston Villa and Everton v Atletico Madrid Villareal)

    We get shit for having a tough time scoring against Chelsea. Manchester United has never scored against La Liga’s 6th place team! In 4 Champion’s league matches may i remind you.

    2. “Secondly, the EPL is a much more powerful and fast league than La Liga. Chelsea showed that both tonight and in last week’s game, as they hustled and harried Barca off the ball”

    I hope that you dont intend to use last night’s Chelsea vs. Barca to exemplify the EPL vs. La Liga. It wasnt spanish style against english style last night. You cant tell me that Chelsea went out and attempted to impose their “superior EPL” style on us. They didnt even try to play football, which didnt let us play our game either.

    That match is not analogous of the two leagues. At least i hope Chelsea’s performance isnt the one you want representing the Prem.

    3. “We’re sure to score”

    Puyol and Pique are a very good back pair, Puyol adding stability, and Pique has the pace to track CRonaldo. having Caceres on the right instead of Alves will actually strengthen our defense not hurt it. And while Sylvinho doesnt have the pace of Abidal, he has more skill.

    If any attack is “sure to score” im going to bet on Messi-Eto’o-Henry.

    (im sorry if the tone seemed stand-offish, because i totally dont mean it that way)

    I just think the whole “EPL is the best league in the world” is a common misconception”.

    Good luck with the rest of your campaign, and im hoping for a hell of a match in Rome.

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  • Ramzi |  May 8th, 2009 at 1:49 am

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    As a Barcelona fan, I am glad you are not Sir Alex assistant, Wayne. You know your stuff :)

    Man Utd vs Barcelona is the best final to wish. NO certainty in this battle, specially that I dont think Man Utd is a more difficult team for Barcelona to beat than Chelsea. First of all, what bothers Barcelona most is the physical domination of the opponent in the midfield more than opponent defense quality.And thats where Chelsea is better than Man Utd (Essien-Ballack-Lampard). What helped Chelsea most (beside Pep lack of coaching experience, its his first season on this level) was the fact that Barcelona midfield faced a cement wall that cut the link with offense. and prevented the positions switching (Eto’o-Messi, Henry-Eto’o…) which is Barcelona lethal weapon. So it ended up being a more static performance. man utd is better than Chelsea almost in everything but that.

    Beside, Barcelona came to Chelsea second leg game out of energy after a crazy chain of fixtures. I think (hm..I hope…) pep will do more rotations so the team reach to man Utd game more fresh.

    Barcelona will be without Alves, a big loss for offense system, but at least will not (again hope not…) need to have Yaya in CB position. Which is an added value over the game against Chelsea. And if Henry was there as well, then thats another plus.

    Saying that, I dont mean Barcelona are superior. And those who mentioned The coaches experience as a factor are spot on. I am just stressing on the fact that this is a well balanced game between two clubs with lot of class. And hope the best win.

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  • Ramzi |  May 8th, 2009 at 5:25 am

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    I agree that the argument about the best league is a myth. But it is more an EPL fans obsession to claim EPL is superior. As a full package (Infrastructure, broadcasting, atmosphere, marketing plus football) there is some truth in that. But football wise its just another league with its goods and bads, Technically it is inferior to the Liga, Physically its better (which leads to better defense output), while tactically both leagues are inferior to Seria A. So it depends on everyone perspective. Its important to be aware that is all a matter of oppinion thats based on taste more than judgements thats based on facts.

    I think as long as England national teams (First team and down to the youth teams) are underachieving, relating that to the fact that the more you go down in the league table the more English-based squads you find. And as long as there are more UEFA Licensed Coaches even in Czech than in England (with the impact of that fact on raising new talented generation of players) there is no room for this “superiority” claim.

    Champions’ league is a sign, but not a decider. it was one scholes shot that made the Champions’ league final include Man Utd rather than Barcelona last time. And it was iniesta single shot that lead Barcelona to the final instead of Chelsea this season. now imagine Barcelona winning the CL this season in Penalties against man Utd, How naive it will sound if La liga fans claimed being superior?

    So, Ilyich, no offense but I think EPL followers overrate everything EPL-related and underrate everything else. It reminds me of the story when England national team made their first historical trip to South America.

    Puyol has his flops, so as Ferdinand. To say he is a crap (he looks good because he plays in a humble league) is an exaggeration. Lets not forget that he lead and leading Spain NT defense that won the last euro(guess who partner him there). And I dont want to start talking about how difficult it is to be a defender in barcelona where 7 of your teammates are always in the second half of the field. Certainly its not the same as having Mascherano and Xabi Camping in front of you on ur box edge all the time. So as you see, there are lot of little things that people dont take in consideration when they do judgments.

    Now to compare offense Vs Offense you need to talk about XIMEH Vs man utd offense, you forgot Xavi and Iniesta in your creative MEH abbreviation.

    Again you are underrating everything that’s not an EPL. And sometimes EPL followers get so obsessed with EPL muscles that they start to make this kind of Evaluations (Insightful Title, right?):

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1113507/The-best-players-world-Xavi–Ronaldo-crowned-king-football.html

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  • Pyro |  May 8th, 2009 at 6:22 am

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    Well you Man utd fans, we struggle against chelsea, you guys struggled against PORTO! inferior to Lyon and Bayern, in my oppinion there is no favorite.

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  • Wayne Farry |  May 8th, 2009 at 7:07 am

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    Ramzi: I personally don’t think I underrate other leagues. I watch A LOT of football away from the EPL, and I like it. But I just don’t think it competes with the EPL.

    I grew up watching more Italian football than English football. I love Serie A, and La Liga. And those leagues will be at the top once again in the future. It’s all a cycle. But at the moment the EPL is better.

    Saying someone is underrating other leagues suggests a lack of knowledge about said leagues. But I’m very knowledegable about other leagues, and from the many, many matches I’ve watched I think that overall, the EPL is better.

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  • Ramzi |  May 8th, 2009 at 8:46 am

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    I was not pointing toward someone specific, Wayne. but in general what I mentioned about EPL followers is a general concept, but there are exceptions for everything.

    Again, I believe its a matter of taste and opinion. For example, EPL games are more exciting than Seria A, but as a follower for both leagues (in my opinion) EPL matches are naive tactically compared to Seria A game. And when I say so (this is an important note) I do not mean Man utd game against Liverpool for example, I am talking about the general standard. Put Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd aside then compare any game between the rest to any game between two Seria A clubs (keeping Milan, Juventus, Inter, Roma aside). The tactics, the substitutions, Players roles and functionality, the overall game strategy, every game is a tactical lecture…

    Or in short, compare Seria A coaches to the ones of the EPL. (Again putting the best four coaches aside).

    But of course when you switch ur TV to a Seria A game and you see bad pitches, empty stadiums, and a commenter talking about conspiracy doubts, you feel “well…let them go to hell! find me an EPL game”

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  • Bilal |  August 5th, 2009 at 11:59 am

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    sadly the theory was wrong and barca won

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  • bilal |  August 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

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    sadly the theory was wrong and barca won!! LOL

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